Who should Obama pick for VP?

I realize this question has been raised before, but since opinions and dynamics change over time, I'm interested in who folks think would be the strongest pick for VP.

Obviously many here love Hillary and would want to see her on the ticket. But there's a good argument to be made for demographics (e.g. Richardson) and geographics (e.g. Vilsack, who would help in PA, Brown who would help in Ohio, or Webb who would help in VA). And then there's Clark, who has strong defense cred., (or for that matter, Biden).  


Poll
Who should Obama pick forr VP?
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Bill Richardson
Chris Dodd
Jim Webb
Sherrod Brown
Joe Biden
Russ Feingold
Tom Vilsack
Wes Clark

Votes: 43
Results : Vote Link : Polls

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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (2.00 / 1)

I dunno, but he needs a white male with huge Foreign policy creds.


Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."
by TruthMatters on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:35:17 AM EST

Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

I like Biden.


by mefck on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:38:02 AM EST
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Why exactly (none / 0)

why would you limit him like this?


by linc on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:39:57 AM EST
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Jeramiah Wright (1.00 / 2)


by CoyoteCreek on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:51:30 AM EST
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Al Gore (none / 0)

Nobody else is even close to being as qualified for the job, and Obama is all about hiring the best people.

I don't know if he'd take it or not, but he would be able to pursue his environmental initiatives and take on major diplomatic challenges like never before.

Further, if something happened to Obama, at least we'd know that the VP had passed the commander-in-chief test...


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by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:36:32 AM EST

Re: Al Gore (none / 0)


but he would be able to pursue his environmental initiatives and take on major diplomatic challenges like never before.

Not really. As VP you're only as effective as the President you serve under allows you to be. Gore, if you've paid attention to him at all, basically advocates profound, systemic, globally-integrated, even revolutionary changes in how the US handles its responsibility for combating climate change. Gore would be totally disruptive, and both he and Obama know it. Besides, Gore, basically states in his most recent book that he'd rather be on the outside where he can be free to put the necessary levels of pressure on the insiders.


by blueflorida on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:14:15 AM EST
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People can change their minds (none / 0)

I think Obama would be remiss not to give him at least the opportunity to refuse.

Most of the rest of the civilized world is already way ahead of us on environmental issues (See: Kyoto), so we're already playing catch-up.  I think this is an opportunity for Gore to really get us back to where we should be as the last great Western superpower.

I think Obama would give him as much power as he needed.


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by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:30:00 AM EST
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Re: People can change their minds (none / 0)

I've always imagined he would offer him a role to do his environmental work - just not the VP.  


by interestedbystander on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:38:25 AM EST
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Re: Al Gore (none / 0)

Picking Gore might lead a lot of people to suggest that Gore is really the president not Obama.


by Mayor McCheese on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:45:48 PM EST
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Re: Al Gore (none / 0)

Gore would be wonderful, but I doubt he wants the job.

Richardson would be terrific, but he's got the perfect credentials for Secretary of State and we NEED a good SoS to undo the hideous mess Bushx2 has put us in internationally.

Similarly, I like Webb as a candidate, but he's better suited to SecDef, another place that's in need of some serious care.

I voted for Clark -- I don't think he's the only legitimate choice, but he's been a strong, but fair Clinton supporter, and that could help close the gap, plus he's got strong foreign policy cred.


by Rorgg on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 03:30:16 PM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (2.00 / 1)

Jim Webb!

Obama-Webb, isnt that ticket just perfect?


by Cheebs on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:38:04 AM EST

Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

not really.


by colebiancardi on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:07:32 AM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

I disagree.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:32:01 AM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

I would not be happy with VP Webb. He just became a Democrat 2-3 years ago.


by alvic63 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:22:35 PM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

I just find it hard to believe that Gore would be interested.  


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by fugazi on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:38:28 AM EST

I know it's difficult (2.00 / 1)

Think of it this way: He didn't fit in well with the Clinton administration and often felt like a third wheel.  I don't think that'd be the case with an Obama presidency.

Further, Gore is no fool.  He can see how divided the Democratic party has become over the course of the primary, and respect for Al Gore is something that both sides agree with (we all think he should've been president, after all).

He's a known quality and has no excessive baggage.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:41:23 AM EST
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Re: I know it's difficult (none / 0)

No, Gore should be head of the EPA or some other new environmental position.


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by politicsmatters on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:43:55 AM EST
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I don't really think that's an issue (none / 0)

As VP he could do the hiring for the EPA and get the right appointees in there.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:45:38 AM EST
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Re: I don't really think that's an issue (none / 0)

He could do that as head of the transition committee.


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by politicsmatters on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:23:58 AM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (2.00 / 1)

He should pick the governor of Virginia.  


by Spanky on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:39:50 AM EST

Whose name you don't know? (none / 0)

Great name recognition for the "ticket".


by CoyoteCreek on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:52:26 AM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

My short List...

Richardson
Webb
Sebelius
Clinton
Clark
Kaine
Feingold


by Bobby Obama on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:40:48 AM EST

All good choices. (none / 0)

But the best ones have already said they don't want the spot.  My guess is he will pick someone that hasn't been on anyone's list.  

I'm not sure picking another Senator is a good idea.  I think a governor would be better or a military leader.


That One is the Right One for 2008.
by GFORD on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:42:33 AM EST

Should probably add Napolitano (2.00 / 2)

The Governor of Arizona would give McCain major headaches; she's also a border state with some foreign policy cred.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

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by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:43:18 AM EST

Re: Should probably add Napolitano (none / 0)

The rumor is that she remains single for a reason, which would make picking her for  challenging.  That's BS, of course, but nonetheless something that will be part of the calculus.  I love Janet Napolitano though, and think she would make a fantastic AG or Supreme Court Justice, if not VP.  


by HSTruman on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:05:35 AM EST
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"Single for a reason" (none / 0)

Gotta love the oblique phobia dogwhistles.

I don't know that much about her; I was kinda thinking Edwards for Attorney General, but I could probably be convinced otherwise.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:34:23 AM EST
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Its a tough choice for me (2.00 / 2)

I see Webb as the perfect pick for 3 reasons:

1) VA - 12 EV

  1. Foreign policy/Military bonafides, lots of veterans support
  2. Economic progressivism.  Webb wrote a brilliant Op-Ed after being elected about the key to the Jackson or FDR coalition is Scots-Irish merging politically with African Americans on issues of working class economics.  That can cross over into helping in OH, MO, NC.

But part of me sees Webb as well placed in VA as a statesman.

Brown handles economic populism like a champ, and delivers Ohio's 20 EV.  His economic message on trade, etc would solidify MI, WI, IA, PA, while making Missouri and North Carolina major pickup opportunites.


Hoosiers for Hill -- Barack Obama
by BWasikIUgrad on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:45:46 AM EST

Exactly (2.00 / 1)

Problem is whether there is a Dem to take his spot. I'd imagine some sort of run off would be held.


by highgrade on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:23:21 AM EST
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Re: Exactly (none / 0)

Well Kaine would name a replacement.  But outside of Warner (whos nabbing the other seat) and himself (which would be seen as a vain move) - there may be no other prominant VA Democrat that can win that seat in the 2012 election.  Or sooner if VA calls for a special even after a vacancy is filled.


Hoosiers for Hill -- Barack Obama
by BWasikIUgrad on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 03:06:29 PM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

He won't have the chance, he isn't going to be the nominee.


by americanincanada on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:48:12 AM EST

Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (2.00 / 1)

I think the time-stamp is broken.

This was written back in November or December of 2007, right?


Hoosiers for Hill -- Barack Obama
by BWasikIUgrad on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:49:43 AM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (2.00 / 4)

Let's not intrude on private grief.


by interestedbystander on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:41:53 AM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

Sorry to disappoint you but the primaries were pretty much done and over after hillary lost feb 5th. Its just taken some of the Clintonistas more time to realize this.

It's ok, we understand that math is confusing to them and we'll give them time.


by Cheebs on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:52:08 AM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

SHHHH!!!! There are vendors to be paid, errr I mean ads to be run in Puerto Rico!!


by highgrade on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:59:36 AM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

At this point the math isn't hard to figure out. How about devoting that fantastic energy to going after the Grinning Crazy John McNasty!


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:08:32 AM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

Their math is so bad that the other day, someone tried to convince me that 9.3 rounded to the nearest whole number is 10.


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by politicsmatters on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:24:57 AM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

That's funny. The media has done that too. It's almost as funny as the pundits saying, before PA, that Sen. Clinton HAD to win by double digits or she was done (though it started at high double digits and slowly came down) and then the next day, when she didn't, that the sky was falling for Obama.

Short memories and bad math do not make a good combination. Though they're in the business of telling us everything but the truth so it's not a shock from them. Fellow Dems on the other hand...


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:30:36 AM EST
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That was pretty good (2.00 / 1)

So convenient that the media got to support the extension of the race race yet again.

Hillary didn't need to drop out even if they reported it as a 9 point win, but the media is obsessed with "double digits."


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:37:24 AM EST
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Re: That was pretty good (2.00 / 1)

Nope she can go all the way to the end even if the math is against her. That's her absolute right. The media had to say "double digit win" since they collectively backed themselves into that corner by saying anything less meant the race was over.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:45:50 AM EST
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Anybody but Hillary. nt. (2.00 / 1)


"This election is not about ideology, it's about competence." -Michael Dukakis
by MBNYC on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 10:53:34 AM EST

Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (2.00 / 1)

As much as I like Webb, I'd have to say Richardson would be the best pick.

Chris Bowers has a really awesome series on picking Obama's VP over at OpenLeft; definitely worth a read. In short, he advocates that a pick should be made that would reinforce Obama's strengths (as an organizer/campaigner), rather than they conventional-wisdom "balancing" choice to reinforce perceived weaknesses. The electoral equivalent of doubling down.


by hotran on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:04:15 AM EST

Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (2.00 / 1)

Picking a woman might do a  lot to heal the Clinton supporters unhappiness with the results of the nominating process.  Someone mentioned Nepolitano and Sebelius above.  They would do well.  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:10:41 AM EST

Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

Picking a woman would go the rest of the way in driving Clinton's supporters to stay home all together.


by americanincanada on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:24:06 AM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

Why?  Please explain why that would be.


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by politicsmatters on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:25:30 AM EST
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It's fairly simple... (2.00 / 1)

...at least from a pop psychology perspective.

Clinton supporters don't want a woman, they want ONE woman.

Choosing a woman who is not Clinton will be seen as pandering.

Imagine Clinton winning and then choosing Jesse Jackson as her running mate to get the black vote back.

Doesn't mean that Obama shouldn't choose the best person regardless of gender, but the effect would be there.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:39:35 AM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

What makes you say that?  I admit I don't understand Clinton supporters that well but one thing I thought many of them wanted was a woman in the WH or at least the OEOB (I miss West Wing).  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:31:41 AM EST
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Some do... (none / 0)

But the really extremist ones who won't vote for Obama if he's the nominee want Hillary Clinton and would see it as a slap in the face to get Napolitano or someone who is demographically similar to Clinton but not.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:43:11 AM EST
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Re: Some do... (none / 0)

I was talking about the non-extremists.  There is nothing we can do to win back the 'Clinton or die' crowd, but quite a few Democratic women I know are/were excited to have a woman in the WH. I think having a woman on the ticket might make them feel a bit better about Obama.  Time will tell I suppose.  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:52:23 AM EST
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Oh, no doubt (none / 0)

I was talking about why they'd tell you here that Clinton supporters would stay home.

Of course the fanatics here are not representative of the larger base.

Obama will choose the person he feels best for the job, regardless of race, gender, or whatnot.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:18:54 PM EST
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Re:Clinton's support is Diverse! (none / 0)

Picking a woman ?

The biggest illusion among many Obama fans.

Women are voting for Hillary at 57% to 65% levels.

NOT the 90% to 93% levels that blacks have been doing for Obama.

BIG DIFFERENCE!

Clinton's support is VAST & DIVERSE!

65%-69%  of white voters

68%-74%  of Latino voters

75%-82% of Asian voters

54%-65% of Jewish voters

63%-72% of Catholic voters

We don't have ONE ETHNIC GROUP carrying us.

There is No  SC,NC,AL,MS,GA,DC,MD, where that Ethnic group is 50% of primary voters & that group votes 92% of one person.

Nope! We don't have any of that!

So picking a Woman VP does NOTHING for Clinton supporters.

We vote based on the person's qualifications.


by libdemusa on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:35:05 AM EST
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You have a point... (2.00 / 1)

...though I had to fight through your "Obama is a black candidate" rhetoric to get to it.

You're right, though, Clinton supporters want Clinton, not just a white woman.  

Anything less than Hillary Clinton herself is not sufficient for her ardent supporters.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:41:35 AM EST
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Re:Clinton's support is Diverse! (none / 0)

Black women aren't women?


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:47:18 AM EST
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No Women? (2.00 / 1)

Cute math trick, yes it's true those groups vote for her and guess what, they have WOMEN in them.  Women are a majority of the Democratic party.  You can break out subgroups all you like but the major group is still women.  

So yes

65%-69%  of white voters, Majoity Women

68%-74%  of Latino voters, Majority Women

75%-82% of Asian voters, Majority Women

54%-65% of Jewish voters, Majority Women

63%-72% of Catholic voters, Majority Women.

To suggest otherwise would be like denying AA's don't vote for Obama.  

The diffrence, AA's are a small majority of the party as Women are the Majority.  

It's amazing he's made it this far....I mean won.


"The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not by arguing about it or spending time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it" -DL Moody
by nextgen on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:58:39 PM EST
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No Women? (none / 0)

Cute math trick, yes it's true those groups vote for her and guess what, they have WOMEN in them.  Women are a majority of the Democratic party.  You can break out subgroups all you like but the major group is still women.  

So yes

65%-69%  of white voters, Majoity Women

68%-74%  of Latino voters, Majority Women

75%-82% of Asian voters, Majority Women

54%-65% of Jewish voters, Majority Women

63%-72% of Catholic voters, Majority Women.

To suggest otherwise would be like denying AA's don't vote for Obama.  

The diffrence, AA's are a small majority of the party as Women are the Majority.  

It's amazing he's made it this far....I mean won.


"The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not by arguing about it or spending time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it" -DL Moody
by nextgen on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:59:25 PM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

Either one would do well, and although on the surface Nepolitano would be the stronger of the two she is hampered by being from Arizona.  You would want the VP to at least bring in their home state (which is why the Edwards choice in '04 always mystified me) and it would be hard to take it away from McCain as the native son.  Sebelius on the other hand, like Nepolitano, brings executive experience and was re-elected with a larger margin than before.  Kansas could be in play as well as other mid-western states


"You might well think that. I couldn't possibly comment"
by xenontab on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:23:20 PM EST
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Re:Obama/Kennedy 2008 (none / 0)

BTW, ask many of the VA Raising Kaine' activists.

Talk is very strong that Webb would NOT accept a VP offer from Obama.

Kaine yes. With VA's one term Gov, he has nothing to lose.

But Webb nor Mark Warner would not accept a VP from Obama.

After the Rev. Wright scandal, Most VA activists are more convinced than ever that Obama has NO SHOT of carrying VA.

Its not even a question of being competitive, McCain will kick his butt in VA.

Same with Sherrod Brown. No Ohio Democratic official believes even slightly that Obama has a chance in Ohio.

Even Brown's wife, Connie, has said that ONLY Clinton has a chance to carry Ohio.

No VP candidate can fix Obama's problems in big states & Red states.

He might as well pick his best buddy Deval Patrick. Although that won't even guarantee MA.
As it is, Deval is expected to be a one term governor.

With Clinton, she picks Gov. Strickland, GAME OVER in Ohio. She picks Brown, game over in Ohio.

She picks Brendesen in TN, GOP in trouble.

She don't even have to pick the Governors of AR & WV, and they'd both still go for Clinton in Nov.

Obama should go with Ted Kennedy. He needs to convince americans that he can do the job.

This is Bush all over again. Bush needed Cheney because he had no experience.

Obama needs Kennedy because he has no experience.


by libdemusa on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:46:45 AM EST

Re:Obama/Kennedy 2008 (none / 0)

I guess we are going to lose in November.  That should make you happy.


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:54:05 AM EST
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Ugh. (2.00 / 1)

Kennedy knows better than to take a step near the presidency.  That would be a disaster, if you ask me.

Besides, Obama isn't relying on "experience" arguments, he's just looking for the best person for the job.

Putting all of our eggs in one basket in Ohio or Florida or elsewhere is a strategy that has not worked for us.  50%+1 politics is what got us here in the first place.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:54:13 AM EST
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Clark (2.00 / 1)

Would be my first choice. I think he has foreign policy cred, isn't a total novice candidate, is close to Clinton so might heal the rift and we don't worry about losing a senate seat or governorship, since he holds neither. Webb I like a bit but how much do we know about him? Clinton ? A lot to be said for unity but a lot of negatives too. Richardon and Biden are disastrous campaigners. Dodd would be fine but we'd lose his seat to the GOP.


by Mayor McCheese on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:10:05 PM EST

Huh? (none / 0)

Are you talking a "loss" in the general or primary?

Because neither makes much sense.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:20:48 PM EST

Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (2.00 / 1)

why ON earth are senators being "picked"?

it is bad enough we are going to lose one senator to this, you want to lose TWO senators in a Senate where we have a bare bones majority.


by colebiancardi on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:27:43 PM EST

Excellent point (none / 0)

We really can't afford to take anyone out of leadership positions.  Yet another reason why I like Gore for this.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:44:00 PM EST
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Re: A Photo Commentary (none / 0)


by johnnygunn on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:28:17 PM EST

Thinking ahead is a good thing. (none / 0)

Why not write a 'who should Hillary pick for VP' diary?


by dystopianfuturetoday on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:44:26 PM EST
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Re: Thinking ahead is a good thing. (none / 0)

It's pretty clear who HRC will offer the VP to.
She's already said as much.
Will Obama?
by johnnygunn on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:02:31 PM EST
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Hard to say. (none / 0)

Let's see how the GE shapes up before committing to a VP.  I would have to guess HRC is, at the very least, on the short list.


by dystopianfuturetoday on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:27:25 PM EST
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A Action Commentary (none / 0)


After a series of discussions, the Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee have decided to file papers with the Federal Election Commission establishing a "joint fundraising agreement." Under the law, such a committee can accept up to $28,500 from individuals, most of which would go to the DNC.

Presumptive Republican nominee John McCain has already formed such an alliance with the Republican National Committee. Their group -- called Victory -- was created in March after McCain clinched the GOP nomination and is headed by McCain adviser Carly Fiorina.

Sources say the DNC has also held talks with Hillary Clinton's campaign about forming a separate vehicle with her, but that no deal has been struck.

The fact that the Obama campaign is moving forward and Clinton is not at this time reflects certain important realities: Obama's team is more confident that he will win the nomination than is Clinton's -- and Obama's campaign has the necessity and luxury of thinking about and planning for the general election to come.


"The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not by arguing about it or spending time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it" -DL Moody
by nextgen on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:11:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Will you vote for Obama if he gets the nom? (none / 0)


by dystopianfuturetoday on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:42:39 PM EST

Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

The only sensible choice is to pick Hillary because her supporters will feel, if she doesn't get the nomination, that she was robbed. A unity ticket will be proof to those supporters that she has overcome those feelings and that therefore her supporters should as well.


by alvic63 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:29:14 PM EST

Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

The real, tangible problem with this is that regardless of how good a candidate Clinton is, picking her as his running mate totally undermines his message.  The differences between Obama and Clinton aren't so much on policy as method.  Obama's supported a transparent, grassroots pressure-powered method of getting support for policy.

Clinton is essentially technocratic -- come up with the perfect policy and then convince the legislators it's the best one so they'll vote for it.

Clinton's methods aren't inherently bad, and they're sure as hell a lot better than Bush's "do whatever the hell I want then make up stuff to make it the only patriotic option" method, but it's very different from Obama's, and runs counter to his broad message, which rejects her method.


by Rorgg on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 03:40:57 PM EST
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Re: Who should Obama pick for VP? (none / 0)

I dont think Richardson would bring in past the usual demographics...he wouldn't bring in the Latino vote, he couldn't even get the Hispanic/Latino vote when he was running


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by amde on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 07:03:56 PM EST


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